II. Has the Earth Already Had an “End Time”? – Retrieving Mankind’s Lost Heritage (Part 2A)

Part 1: The World of Prehistory
Part 2: From One Environment to Another
Part 3: Did the Natural World Evolve by Itself, or Was it Created?

Part 2: FROM ONE ENVIRONMENT TO ANOTHER

 (Originally published June, 2010. Last revised September, 2014)

2-A: The Original Creation
2-B: Is There Scientific Evidence of a Great Flood?
2-C: Skepticism in Modern Science
2-D: A Further Word about the Giants
2-E: Re-Creation of the Earth
2-F: Recap of How the Flood Re-modeled the Earth’s Environment
2-G: Some of the New Features of the Post-Flood Environment
2-H: Was There an Ice Age?
2-I: Early Migration Before the Rise of Civilization

2-A: The Original Creation

Scientists generally acknowledge that the environment of the prehistoric world was very different to the environment that we live in today. And this begs for an answer to certain questions about how and why things were so different:

1) How was it that the prehistoric environment was able to support the growth of such large versions of plants, animals, and even man?

2) What was it about the weather that allowed plants and animals that today inhabit only tropical areas to thrive even in the polar regions of that mysterious world of ancient times?

3) Whatever happened to cause the disappearance of all these strange creatures that used to roam the earth?

4) Did the earth experience some great cataclysm in the past?

Since we in modern times weren’t there to witness what the earth was like back then, is there any record from ancient times times that might at least give us the basic understanding we need? A good detective might suggest to check out the ancient

SACRED WRITINGS OF MANKIND

After all, even if there were no scientists around at the time, at least God was there, and He should know. And the people who were living in those prehistoric days would also have some idea. We don’t have much of an idea because we weren’t there. But a major “lead” that can put us on the right track towards unraveling the mystery appears in the passages below; they contain an important “clue” to help us solve this great mystery of the prehistoric world’s strange environment. In particular, this ancient passage describes for us the kind of atmosphere and “waters” the earth had long ago in the very beginning of time.

Genesis 1:6-8

And God said,

“Let there be an expanse [atmosphere] between the waters to separate water from water.”

So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it.

And it was so.

God called the expanse ‘sky’…”

Rig-Veda

suggests the existence of a double-layered atmosphere:

“Svah” being the upper layer above “Bhuvah” (airspace), while “Bhuh” is the earth below.

 

“The water under the expanse (atmosphere) would, of course, represent the oceans, lakes, and rivers of the earth.

But what does it mean by the “water above the expanse” ? In the present day there exist water vapor and clouds of condensed vapor up in the sky, but these are located in the atmosphere rather than above it. In prehistoric times, however, it seems that Earth was surrounded by a shroud of water, or water vapor, at a very high altitude above ground level.

Is this possible? In our present atmosphere, the stratosphere section of it is quite cold. However, beyond that region (in the thermosphere) the temperature becomes very hot, well above the boiling point of water. And this is where Earth’s atmosphere is capable of harboring a tremendous “ocean” of invisible water vapor. This “ocean” of water vapor is not there now, but according to the Genesis Book, it was there and was an important feature of God’s original creation.

 

In the upper reaches of the atmosphere (thermosphere), the temperature rises to well above the boiling point of water. This region of the atmosphere could easily have sustained a huge “ocean” of water vapor, as part of the original Creation.

Of course, it is impossible to travel back in time to verify what the earth was like back then. But as we continue, we shall see how the above explanation helps us to make sense of the evidence that we see today in the fossils and rocks, and in our present climate.

Features of Earth’s Original Atmosphere:

  • 1)        The Sun emits some harmful radiation (cosmic rays, x-rays, ultra-violet radiation); all these are not good for our health and cause aging in man. But originally, Earth was protected from most of this harmful radiation.
  • 2)        Greenhouse effect: The layer of water vapor above the earth acted as an insulator. Heat could not escape so easily; thus temperatures in polar regions could get much warmer than they do now. In addition, the same water vapor shroud could have acted as a shield against excessive heat, such as we find nowadays in some desert areas of the Earth.
  • 3)        A layer of water vapor above the Earth would have caused the atmosphere to be much denser than it is today; air pressure at ground level would have been much higher.

canopy5

With higher air pressure in the atmosphere, it is easier to absorb oxygen. Such conditions enabled plant, animal, and human life in those early days of history to grow much larger and live much longer than today. More oxygen also gave the muscle strength needed to enable huge animals, like some of the dinosaurs, to move themselves easily, whereas in today’s environment it would be very difficult.

(Note that if you were twice as tall as you are now, then you would also be twice as wide, which means you would be four time as heavy; and that means you would need a lot more muscle strength to move all that additional weight.)

In addition, a denser atmosphere made it possible for the large flying creatures, like the pterodactyl, to fly. In the thin atmosphere of our present environment, it might be very difficult.

In a groundbreaking experiment, scientist Dr. Baugh, founder and director of the Creation Evidence Museum in Glen Rose, Texas, recreated these conditions in the laboratory. In a specially constructed biosphere, he was able to duplicate the atmospheric conditions of the ancient past and observe the startling results: fish and insects grew to giant size!

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 “The London Artifact is a hammer, probably used for fine metal working judging by its size, weight and the ends of the head. It was found near London, Texas, near a waterfall in 1934. The rock of this area is dated geologically as Cretaceous (144 Million to 65 Million years old), or during the time of the dinosaurs. [Does that mean the dinosaurs were very clever and made this tool? Or does it mean the belief in long ages of prehistory before the arrival of mankind is mistaken? More explanation on this point will come later, but suffice it to say for now, there is plenty of evidence to show that mankind was alive at the same time as the dinosaurs … in the pre-Flood age.] Besides being a fascinating find, the metallurgy of the hammer is remarkable: Good, high quality metal with no bubbles or slag and a bizarre compounding of 96% iron, 2.6% chlorine and 0.74% sulfur. A cut was made into the corner of the head to verify it was metal. Sixty years later, that cut (shown also on this replica) has still not rusted! When you compound chlorine with iron you get a powder etchant – not tough steel!
       
“What is this artifact doing in rock so “old” and how did the people who formed it make it the way they did?” [A denser atmosphere would have created the conditions needed in this process of creating “tough steel” out of these materials.]
       
(Text from http://ianjuby.org/ Creation Science Museum of Canada)

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REVIEW

Since no was one around at the time to scientifically observe and verify the fact, how can we scientifically figure out that a great water vapor canopy once surrounded the earth? Like a detective, we must observe the evidence and ask questions:

- Evidence? Fossils of very large plants and animals –

Question: How was it that the plants and animals were so much more robust than those of today?
Answer: Without as much protection from the Sun’s harmful radiation (cosmic, UV, and X-rays), the plants and animals in our present environment cannot grow as large or live as long as they used to when the Earth was surrounded by the water vapor shield that existed at the time of the original Creation.
Question: How can such large birds fly?
Answer: A denser atmosphere ⇒ easier to fly. (Wings have more to push against.)
Question: How can such large land animals move themselves?
Answer: A denser atmosphere ⇒ absorb more oxygen ⇒ more muscle strength
Question: How would the atmosphere be more dense?
Answer: A great shroud of water vapor around the earth would cause this effect.
Question: What happened to this great “ocean” of water vapor?
Answer: God caused it to collapse and flood the world.
Question: If that is true, is there any evidence of it?
Answer: The same fossils and rock formations that present us with evidence of what conditions were like in the prehistoric age also present startling evidence of a great worldwide Flood

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Continued in B: Is There Scientific Evidence of a Great Flood?

Comments

  1. Cleveland Mann says:

    Shalom,

    Hello, my good friend..

    I’m putting together little Bible Story booklets for my grand children… I’ve written the first two and am now working on the third..

    The first was Adam and Eve in the Garden,
    The second was Cain and Abel,
    But now for the third… For this one, I’m using your site for background information from which to write the third which will be about what happened after Cain and Abel and the Flood.. which children’s bible stories usually seem to skip…

    So, thank you for sharing such good information..

    If you’d like, I will be glad to send you the first two books..

    In Yeshua,

    Cleveland

    • admin says:

      Glad the site was useful for you. Hope the writing work for your grandchildren goes well. You can send the books if you want, but I don’t think I would need anything like this. Shalom – John Lyall

  2. Percy says:

    Hi John Lyall
    You are certainly a great and true scientist, and I have admired so far two of your pages and research. Wonderful information, some of which I didn’t know yet. Keep up the good work. I added your first page to our blogroll.
    Gby!
    Percy

  3. John Barrow says:

    There is something that I don’t understand. The Bible says that the waters were above the firmament, and that God placed the sun,moon,and stars in the firmament. If it was the waters above the firmament that caused the flood, then the water would have had to pass through the firmament and would fall on the sun, moon,stars, and the other planets?
    Also, how could the canopy of water be responsible for filtering the sun’s rays if the canopy was beyond the sun? I’m sure that David (Brandt Berg) said something about this in one of his letters, but I can’t find it. I’m sure the Lord will lead me to the answer, sooner or later, but is there anything you could help me with? Perhaps, I’m just misunderstanding things.
    Thanks John.

    • admin says:

      Dear John,
      Hi and thank you for your communication. About the “firmament”, I would say that some leeway has to be given here because of the ancients’ lack of scientific understanding about the cosmos. Perhaps God knew it would be too difficult to explain that the stars and Sun and Moon were not actually “in the firmament” but millions of miles beyond it. For those in ancient times it might have been too incomprehensible. The main point was that the heavenly bodies look as if they’re “in the firmament”. And the fact that they’re not really “in the firmament” was – in the mind of God anyway – a fine distinction that perhaps did not need to be elaborated on at that time.

      The Bible we know is God’s Book, yet it was written by humans, and sometimes, to get a fuller understanding, it’s necessary to realize that God allows human viewpoints to be used. For example, God is often described in human terms. “The arm of the Lord is not shortened…” There are many other examples, which Peter talks about in one of the “Heart of it All” posts, but I can’t think of any of them right now. This “human viewpoint” factor is something that cropped up quite a bit in the “Unraveling the Mystery of the Image” post on this endtimeupgrade site.
      The fact that a Book like the Bible could be written at all through frail human channels is quite amazing. We just have to understand that those human viewpoints can peek through sometimes. Thus, we can’t take everything word-for-word literally sometimes; we have to allow some leeway for human error. In John the apostle’s vision of the “image”, there was quite a bit of his “human error” that went into his description, and I felt that needed to be taken into account so as to better understand his words. Otherwise, if it is taken too literally, I don’t think we get the right understanding of it.
      I know David did say somewhere something about the “waters above the firmament” extending beyond the Sun. I would say he was expressing his opinion, but that doesn’t make it a “thus saith the Lord” doctrine or statement. Other things he said were, of course, right on and should be taken very seriously. I think it helps to keep in mind that much of what we read in the Letters are transcriptions of spoken talks and lectures. They weren’t written beforehand or edited afterwards. So there is bound to be stuff that does not have to be taken as rock-solid doctrine.
      Well, I hope this helps. God bless you.
      Warmest Regards,
      John

  4. Radley Carter says:

    There is a huge problem the clam argument. It states that clams open when they die. That is not true. I have a degree in biology, and have dissected numerous types of clams. Anyone who has dissected dead clams can tell you that the first step is to use a screwdriver (or other non delicate metal rod) to crack and pry open the clams at the hinges. Even though they are dead, clams are clamped tighter than a pickle jar lined with glue.

    • admin says:

      TY for your suggestion. I can’t explain your experience with dead clams that were shut tight. There may be something to it. I can’t say I’ve investigated the matter thoroughly, but a brief search on the Net did seem to confirm that, in normal circumstances, clams open up because the muscle that keeps the shell shut disintegrates after the clam dies. But maybe that doesn’t happen under certain circumstances.

  5. dennis saul says:

    hi. first off – thanks. when i was a kid i was taught basic stuff – adam and eve – noah – jesus herod pharoes, thats about it. I always thought giants were only in films. the world was made in 7 days – i read darwin at the age of 19 (im 73 now ) – NOW – I poo pooed this and called in rubbish – basically saying the world is not old enough for mutations from plankton to man to take place. I have always maintained that everything was made by God or a creator. Your blog has enlightened me so much and the thing that strikes me most and also with text from the bible is the incredible detail and cross referanceability of it all – The fossils – the giants – the rock strata ( again i have always wondered why this was so ) the accounts of the flood from so many sources – the grand canyon – — still much to read – so intregued – thanks again – i appreciate the work you must have put in to gain the knowledge.

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